Hi there ^_^

The SugarStore is a library where you can download sugars and themes. The idea was to create a place where you can search for a certain sugar or theme and see what’s new. My bad that the Coffee House launched a few days ago.

I started coding on the SugarStore two weeks ago. It was a lot of work and I don’t want to waste it so here it is, maybe you like it. I would be pleased if you add your sugar or theme, otherwise I can understand you if you won’t.

The SugarStore

There will be an update with theme preview and screenshots and so on.

Developer? There are two XML streams: ordered by name or by date.

David

David - 03 January 2009 12:56 PM

Hi there ^_^

The SugarStore is a library where you can download sugars and themes. The idea was to create a place where you can search for a certain sugar or theme and see what’s new. My bad that the Coffee House launched a few days ago.

I started coding on the SugarStore two weeks ago. It was a lot of work and I don’t want to waste it so here it is, maybe you like it. I would be pleased if you add your sugar or theme, otherwise I can understand you if you won’t.

The SugarStore

There will be an update with theme preview and screenshots and so on.

Developer? There are two XML streams: ordered by name or by date.

David

You need to get in IRC, dude. Alex and I have been co-ordinating development of my in-Espresso “Sugar Management.sugar” and his Coffee House.

Fragmentation of sources is not a good thing.

That’s just a better looking ripoff of Coffee House.

EDIT: Oh my bad, I see you started two weeks ago.

alexgordon - 03 January 2009 01:37 PM

That’s just a better looking ripoff of Coffee House.

EDIT: Oh my bad, I see you started two weeks ago.

Ahahaha d-:

ok

Yeesh, what a group of responses to a friendly announcement.  Because Coffee House came out first and David hasn’t been hanging out in IRC means he should be dismissed and laughed at?

Personally, I like SugarStore a lot better than Coffee House.  The things I liked the most:

- Direct download link on the main page
- Friendlier URLs (although not as friendly, as I’d like to see; stubs would be better than numbers)
- More relevant details in the example Sugar (knowing which extensions the Sugar works on is far more important to me than “Markdown Sugar adds color into Markdown code.”; granted, this is mostly in the control of whoever submits the plugin, though, and isn’t site-specific)

I’m starting to get really pessimistic about the core group of Sugar developers.  A welcoming, helpful, and positive community could make Espresso great, but things are tended towards a “my way or the highway” attitude recently that is completely counter-productive.

David, thank you for developing the SugarStore.  Personally, I would much rather use it than Coffee House as things currently stand.  If the project managing Sugar and most Sugar developers continue to use Coffee House, I sincerely hope Alex will integrate some of the better aspects of SugarStore into Coffee House.

Thank you!

I don’t want to use a sugar name as URL because the ID is unique and generated by MySQL (auto-increment, primary key).
And I got on IRC the same day and they were VERY friendly.

Alex won’t integrate aspects like the URL design because he isn’t using CodeIgniter.
Concerning the details: I wrote both descriptions and, I admit, the first text is poor.

I also understand Alex doesn’t like SugarStore.

I’m really sorry about launching it.
David

Hey looks great. Looks really nice, and I have to admit I am liking it more then Coffee House.

Keep it up

Hey, I’m still here.

Anyway, David and I have talked about merging Sugar Store’s great theme with Coffee House’s backend. If there’s anything on sugar store that you’d like to see on Coffee House, please post them on the coffee house thread and I’ll add them.

@George: I think Elliott was laughing at me, not David. You’re overreacting.

David, this is great! It’s a little unfortunate that there are now two separate projects, but if you can band together to combine the best elements that’d be awesome I prefer the SugarStore design (though I must admit I really don’t like the header font ), but the other features are probably pretty interchangeable between the two projects (as is already happening).

We’re considering an “official” something.macrabbit.com aggregator at some point, so it would be great if we could build on either/both of these initiatives. Thanks for the enthusiasm already, in any case!

alexgordon - 04 January 2009 05:07 AM

@George: I think Elliott was laughing at me, not David. You’re overreacting.

Maybe; but stuff in forums is always way easier to misinterpret or take umbrage at than face to face interactions, so I’ll stand by my comments.

Glad to hear you guys are working together to improve Coffee House!  I definitely like the direct download links on the homepage and the new URL scheme.

wow, coffee house works with ci? hmm…
i have done sugarstore in ci too. already working well. i have a few years ci experience.

No, Coffee House doesn’t use Code Ignitor. It’s just normal PHP.

ah.

David - 04 January 2009 04:20 AM

Thank you!

Alex won’t integrate aspects like the URL design because he isn’t using CodeIgniter.

You don’t need CI to do this, just some url rewriting on the server side and a bit of routing.. Good work on the website! Hopefully the ‘official’ sugar repo has the best of both worlds

George the Flea - 04 January 2009 01:48 AM

Yeesh, what a group of responses to a friendly announcement.  Because Coffee House came out first and David hasn’t been hanging out in IRC means he should be dismissed and laughed at?

Personally, I like SugarStore a lot better than Coffee House.  The things I liked the most:

- Direct download link on the main page
- Friendlier URLs (although not as friendly, as I’d like to see; stubs would be better than numbers)
- More relevant details in the example Sugar (knowing which extensions the Sugar works on is far more important to me than “Markdown Sugar adds color into Markdown code.”; granted, this is mostly in the control of whoever submits the plugin, though, and isn’t site-specific)

I’m starting to get really pessimistic about the core group of Sugar developers.  A welcoming, helpful, and positive community could make Espresso great, but things are tended towards a “my way or the highway” attitude recently that is completely counter-productive.

David, thank you for developing the SugarStore.  Personally, I would much rather use it than Coffee House as things currently stand.  If the project managing Sugar and most Sugar developers continue to use Coffee House, I sincerely hope Alex will integrate some of the better aspects of SugarStore into Coffee House.

I don’t know where you’re getting any of this… Other than some animosity on my part towards Coda, expressed in a completely separate thread (even in a different section of the forum), everything going on around here has been completely cordial. I’d like to keep it that way, so I’m dropping this discussion.